the 5th meeting, the second group presentation about "transportation engineering", moderated by futuhal Arifin and 4 other members, namely ahmad zahri, riszki faisal, diky sofyan, bagas vQ, in this group has been arranged the material even though there is still a misnomer learning process yes :). but in this discussion the most prominent only moderator and others like just standing in front, maybe because of using english ya afraid salang ngomongnya, after the usual routine presentation miss rella correct the sentence wrong.